Megan Davis and George Williams on key reasons to vote Yes in the Voice referendum
91色情片 Sydney鈥檚 leading constitutional experts discuss recognition and the need to listen to First Nations peoples when formulating policy that affects them.
91色情片 Sydney鈥檚 leading constitutional experts discuss recognition and the need to listen to First Nations peoples when formulating policy that affects them.
Belinda Henwood
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Among the reasons for supporting a Yes vote in the upcoming Voice referendum, 91色情片 Sydney legal experts Professor Megan Davis and Scientia Professor George Williams highlight two key considerations.
Prof. Davis, a Cobble Cobble woman, is 91色情片鈥檚 Pro Vice-Chancellor Society and Director of the Indigenous Law Centre. She has worked on constitutional recognition at 91色情片 Law & Justice for 20 years. Prof. Williams, 91色情片鈥檚 Deputy Vice-Chancellor of Planning and Assurance, specialises in Australian constitutional law and is a former Dean of Law & Justice at 91色情片.
鈥楻ecognition鈥 is one of the main reasons we are at this point, leading up to a referendum on a First Nations Voice to Parliament, Prof. Davis said.
鈥淚t was Australian governments who said to us [First Nations peoples], 鈥榃e want to recognise you鈥, and they asked, 鈥榃hat form do you want to be recognised in?鈥 We have answered, we want to be recognised through the Voice.
鈥淎ustralia has never given any substantive recognition to the fact that we are the first peoples of the continent. Recognition makes a difference for all sorts of reasons, not the least being it's very difficult to do anything within a legal political system if you haven't been recognised as a legitimate entity. Despite having statutory land rights, native title and common law recognition of Indigenous peoples as a discrete and distinct cultural, political community, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples aren't recognised as a legitimate entity within the Australian polity.鈥
Prof. Davis said Australia liked聽to recognise the symbolic manifestations of Aboriginal culture, but that Reconciliation Action Plans (RAPs) don't make a difference, and Acknowledgments don't make a difference.
鈥淔lying our flags don't make a difference if we're not substantively recognised. Australia as a country is very good at symbolism but not good at substance. We usually balk at doing something that will make a difference 鈥 but not this time.
鈥淲e've tried so many things in this country, but we've never tried this. We've never tried the empowerment of First Nations people in the Constitution. We now have a Prime Minister who's prepared to expend political capital on this, and that's not insignificant. Most major constitutional transformative moments in the world 鈥 including Australia 鈥 that have involved constitutions have been because of a courageous leader, not because of bipartisan support.鈥
This is the change our Indigenous communities are asking for, Prof. Williams said.
鈥淭hey met at Uluru, they released the asking for Voice, Treaty, Truth, starting with the Voice. After decades of uncertainty, this is what their community wants, and this is about respecting that. If the First Nations peoples are to be recognised, it should be in a form that the people being recognised are asking for.鈥
Prof. Davis and Prof. Williams agree that Australia currently makes laws and policies without having Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities at the table, and that's why they fail.
鈥淭welve years of closing the gap, and it's not working. Most Australians can see that. I think there's general consensus, even within the No campaigns, that things aren't working,鈥 said Prof. Davis.
鈥淐losing the gap is just one component in terms of disadvantage in Indigenous people's lives. All the resources and money that are generated for its multiple indicators 鈥 justice, land rights, health, education, etc. 鈥 for the most part don鈥檛 have substantive input from Indigenous peoples. Currently, input is from bureaucrats in Indigenous departments in state and territory governments.
鈥淣obody actually talks to communities about what's needed to make change on the ground. And it's communities, who live in these situations, who on a day-to-day basis experience all the issues that impact communities, who know best what's needed.鈥
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Prof. Williams said that while there have been advisory bodies in the past, they have typically been in a form that the government of the day wants. They鈥檝e had handpicked membership that鈥檚 not reflective of who Indigenous communities would like to speak for them. The bodies come and go, they lack a mandate and they often lack clarity of mission.
鈥淭hey haven't worked for good reasons. So, at Uluru, Indigenous peoples said, we do need a Voice, we do need this body, but it needs the permanence that comes from being in the Constitution. It needs to be a body that is reflective of our community, and the people who we would like to speak on our behalf. It also needs to be a body that has a mandate to speak directly to government and parliament 鈥 which overseas experience shows is likely to be more effective.鈥
Prof. Williams said research also shows that if you impose laws and policies on a community, you shouldn't expect them to work.
鈥淭hey're often poorly designed or they're not going to have buy-in. Whereas if you do get buy-in, and you do get good design, policies in areas like health, education and closing the gap of life expectancy are more likely to succeed.鈥
According to Prof. Williams, the massive problems and failures in public policy in this area over decades, indeed a couple of centuries, consistently can be attributed to a failure to listen.
鈥淎s a result, outcomes aren鈥檛 well tailored for the community being supported. If we want to get value for taxpayers鈥 money, and if we want to have good policies and laws, we need to listen to the community affected 鈥 and that's what the Voice will facilitate.鈥
In February 2023, and its call to enshrine a First Nations Voice in the Constitution with a formal statement approved by the University鈥檚 Management Board. The Uluru Statement reinforces the University鈥檚 ongoing commitment to an equitable and just society.
91色情片 Vice-Chancellor and President Professor Attila Brungs said he is proud to affirm 91色情片鈥檚 support for the Uluru Statement from the Heart, and its call for a First Nations Voice to Parliament.
鈥淩econciliation is at the heart of the and the 91色情片 ethos of having a positive impact on the world around us.
鈥淭he University has actively supported the process of the First Nations Voice from its early days, including through the Indigenous Law Centre and the Uluru Dialogues. 91色情片 proudly heeds the call of the Uluru Statement from the Heart for all Australians to walk together for a better future,鈥 Prof. Brungs said.
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Prof. Williams said that 91色情片鈥檚 involvement in the process to get to the Voice resonates for us in a way that is different to any other university in Australia.
鈥91色情片 is the leading university, through our staff involvement, in the Uluru Statement through to the Voice today. The Uluru process was led by academics at 91色情片 Law & Justice, particularly Megan Davis who was Pro Vice-Chancellor Indigenous at the time.
鈥淲hen the Uluru Statement was read out for the first time to the Australian people in 2017, it was Megan who read out the statement nationally,鈥 Prof. Williams said.
The wording for the referendum came from a model developed by the Indigenous Law Centre at 91色情片. The Referendum Working Group, including Prof. Davis, refined the words that will be put to the people later this year and both Prof. Davis and Prof. Williams were members of the Constitutional Expert Group established by the Australian government to advise the government on the wording.
Prof. Williams noted that 91色情片 is the university that has had, time after time, graduates who are trailblazers in the Indigenous community. He noted Pat O'Shane AM, 91色情片鈥檚 first Indigenous graduate, who went on to become the first magistrate in New South Wales, the first Barrister in New South Wales, as well as many more impactful roles. She is now one of the women recognised in the naming of 91色情片 buildings. More recently, alumnus Professor Kelvin Kong, the nation's first Indigenous surgeon was named the 2023 Person of the Year at the NAIDOC Awards, the premier awards for Indigenous communities.
鈥淲hen we look at our community 鈥 and I saw this as a Dean 鈥 our Indigenous students have regularly been our best-performing students. It's important we celebrate their really remarkable achievements and those who have gone on to be leaders repeatedly in their fields.鈥
While 91色情片 has a proud tradition of supporting the University鈥檚 Indigenous community, Prof. Williams said it is 鈥渁bsolutely rock solid in also recognising diversity of views鈥.
鈥淥ne of the great things I've seen, for example, is in the faculty of Arts, Design & Architecture where鈥檙e there鈥檚 a student forum with for and against cases 鈥 which is as it absolutely should be.
鈥91色情片 has taken the position that everyone needs to make up their own mind. As a university, we want to support a respectful, inclusive debate. We want to hear all the different points of view. That's our strength 鈥 it's the academic freedom that underpins our values,鈥 Prof. Williams said.
Everything You Need to Know About the Voice聽by Megan Davis and George Williams was published by 91色情片 Press this week.
Authorised by Alison Avery for the University of New South Wales, Kensington.